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All other rules and effects that check power or toughness use the real values, even if they cause damage "equal to a creature's power" to be dealt

Grenzo (Conspiracy 2, 2016) was another early attempt at this, but it isnt played much even in EDH, where EDHREC only lists 417 decks with it

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Thats why cards like Cry of the Carnarium were played in a Standard format with Midnight Reaper, to deny all the death triggers

Inspect them as carefully as you can of course, then acquire and grade them